In recent years, the entertainment industry has seen numerous revelations that have shaken the very core of its foundations. One of the most talked-about cases is that of Harvey Weinstein, whose actions have sparked widespread discussions on consent, power dynamics, and the culture of silence surrounding sexual misconduct. In the premiere episode of her YouTube series, “Candace Owens – Harvey Speaks: The Project Runway Production,” Candace Owens delves into the story of Miriam “Mimi” Haleyi, a former production assistant for The Weinstein Company.
Owens aims to unearth the complexities of Haleyi’s experience on the set of Project Runway, exploring not just the events that transpired, but also the broader implications for the industry and its individuals. As viewers, we are invited to critically assess how personal narratives intertwine with institutional realities, laying the groundwork for an informed dialogue on empowerment and accountability. However, amidst the captivating storytelling, it is essential to sift through the layers of fact and misinformation to uncover the truth behind these poignant accounts. This blog post will dissect the claims made in Owens’ presentation and provide a thorough fact-checking analysis to ensure that the information presented is both accurate and transparent.
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[00:00:00,000]: All right guys happy Monday [00:00:02,140]: Sorry we are running a few minutes late There are so many pieces when you’re doing this these series that you just want to make sure that you dot your eyes and cross Your T’s so sometimes we take a couple of extra minutes to get everything going But as always I promise you it will be well worth the wait and I am so excited to bring forth this series I’ve already explained to you why it’s so special to me mainly because the me too movement I believe has become an evil manifestation and I have three sons [00:00:26,059]: So let’s jump right into it Welcome to episode 1 of Harvey speaks All right guys so where should we begin I’m thinking that we should begin with the theater kid archetype okay Because if there’s one thing that I’ve realized throughout my career in politics and in the media It’s that there is this theater kid archetype that exists [00:00:58,569]: It’s real people who dedicate a large portion of their lives to the pursuit of the camera Wanting to make it in Hollywood wanting to make it as an actor or an actress [00:01:08,410]: Maybe you start as a drama kid I’m not sure [00:01:12,050]: I’m not certain and I will take your guys your opinions on this that But that thirst ever dies within them And of course I’m generalizing here But I find that when I come across these people and now that we’re older they seem to forever be on a quest the back of their minds for Their big break like it could still happen even if they’re in their 30s their 40s or 50s their 60s And so the question that becomes what happens to these individuals when it never arrives Okay I wanted to think about that What happens if there’s a woman who spends a decade or even more of her life trying to make it in Hollywood [00:01:47,730]: Only to realize that she’s failed Maybe she was even that girl who before she left her hometown quietly mocked in the back of her mind the Unambitious other women right the girls from her hometown Who married off at the age of 20 and then they immediately started having families maybe in her youth She mocked them because you know she knew that she had something special [00:02:09,729]: She was going to make it she was leaving her hometown and I think about that because Interestingly enough in my first book I wrote an entire chapter about a friend that I used to have who was exactly That sort of an individual and I spoke about her because she was an aspiring actress in Brooklyn And we met interning and just kind of chose different paths in our life I was kind of just wanting to get myself out of student loan debt willing to take any and every job And she was just sort of this free spirit She described herself as a free spirit and she came from another country and it was all about Attending the right parties meeting the right directors [00:02:47,009]: She was just so much cooler than me You know she was so much cooler than me and more confident than me and she was gorgeous [00:02:54,509]: She was prettier than me and For a while [00:02:57,570]: It seemed to be working for her [00:02:59,190]: She you know men fell at her feet she got these small acting gigs that she wanted and then as we grew older and Obviously in Hollywood older is even when you’re young she stopped getting those small roles and I Sensed in her a bitterness a bitterness at the different decisions that I had made in my life And unfortunately our friendship ended but I’ll never forget now One of our last conversations that we had was actually about the me too movement and she was so invested in it She was like you don’t understand like this has to happen and I had wondered even though I was listening to her whether or not Her investment in the me too movement was actually her trying to reconcile decisions that she had made in her past decisions that she had made With producers and people that she thought that well if she slept with they might lead to her getting her big break Anyways that’s all somewhat anecdotal [00:03:52,429]: It’s real but anecdotal and The reason that we’re here today is because we’re speaking about Harvey Weinstein Because we all remember nothing and everything about this case [00:04:02,350]: It is very strange There was so much information that we couldn’t dilute it at that time we for sure remember that it began with an explosion an explosion of Journalists and then way too many women to counts that were making allegations [00:04:21,589]: Here is just a small snippet the similarities between these stories were uncanny a lot of use of showers a lot of exposing himself and as I said in These cases allegations of rape then he comes back out and he’s fully naked and he just kept asking me to watch him masturbate Coming now five minutes don’t ruin your friendship with me for five minutes this sort of behavior is Normalized and accepted for decades in this industry Decades she said and it was of course then this very big watershed moment that was going to bring down Harvey Weinstein goodness you guys he was arguably the most powerful man in Hollywood and now we had upwards of a hundred women who were claiming that they had been sexually abused harassed or Even raped which is why he’s in prison today But I gotta tell you something right away That list that long list of women who found the cameras and spoke out and said that things happened and you don’t really remember Whether or not he denied it That list Significantly dwindled by the time we got into the courtroom and then even when we were in the courtroom it dwindled even more And I’ll tell you why this is one of the very many compelling aspects of this case How they were able to sort through the women who were just outright lying Meaning women who had definitively never even slept with Harvey Weinstein some women who he alleges he never even met From the women who had at the very least been intimate with him okay I’ll tell you why because of course when people realize that someone’s going down if you’re Were a struggling person who wanted to make a quick buck and you knew that this Empire was going to crash you might be willing to come in for a quick payday and What better way to do that [00:06:14,190]: You could just cry and cry and then describe something terrible that happened your honor He made me fondle his testicles you know tear streaming down your face in these sorts of moments happened and Harvey’s lawyers Would give each other a look a knowing smirk a high five Realizing that yeah this no one’s gonna believe this woman And I’ll tell you why the answer that is because Harvey Weinstein Didn’t have any testicles [00:06:45,269]: He doesn’t have any testicles [00:06:47,070]: I Told you guys this is a strange tale with many twists and turns and this is just one of them But what became a crucial element of the Harvey Weinstein case something that Harvey probably had considered a curse But it happened to him back in 1999 wound up being something of a blessing to his very many court proceedings I want you to check out this headline Okay it reads Harvey Weinstein’s abnormal testicles are key focus of final arguments in trial [00:07:14,489]: I am NOT kidding This is real and I’ll tell you the story goes that back in 1999 Harvey Weinstein was diagnosed with something known as fournier’s gangrene Okay it is a extremely rare but a life threatening infection that impacts the genitals with a Rapid tissue destruction essentially we’re talking about is necrosis right [00:07:37,190]: It’s necrosis the tissues are dying and I can show you this excerpt from a variety article It says during the trial prosecutors revealed to the jury that Weinstein underwent surgery in 1999 for fournier’s gangrene which required doctors to remove some of his scrotum that Surgery caused pretty noticeable scarring because of an infection His testicles were actually taken from his scrotum and put into his inner thighs So his testicles were removed and put into his inner thighs in 1999 I Know you’re thinking Candace [00:08:12,170]: Are you making this up [00:08:13,049]: How could this be [00:08:13,649]: Yes that happened So the list of credible allegations had Significantly dwindled [00:08:20,929]: Okay [00:08:21,630]: And like I told you really this came down in New York to two women as we told you Harvey Weinstein was sentenced in 2020 to 23 years total in New York But 20 of those years for criminal sexual assault in the first degree Stemmed from accusations that were made from a production assistant who worked on project runway her name is Miriam otherwise known as Mimi Haley Okay So 20 years fellas 20 years ladies listening [00:08:56,330]: You got sons [00:08:57,070]: You’ve got husbands [00:08:57,989]: We’ve got brothers It’s got to be horrific right [00:09:01,330]: If we’re throwing the book and we’re saying basically die in prison because that’s what that means you should die in prison Harvey Weinstein What she lived through must have been terrible I’ll tell you right off the bat that Mimi Haley was born in Helsinki in 1977 and she grew up in Sweden so she was not an American citizen that little tidbit will become somewhat relevant in a little bit and The way that she was introduced to the public was through a lot of tears [00:09:29,049]: It was a press conference in 2017 she announced her allegations against Harvey Weinstein Next to none other than Gloria all right and I’m gonna be honest with you guys [00:09:39,890]: It’s hard to listen to her Recapping what Harvey put her through [00:09:43,869]: So let’s let’s take a listen to Mimi It was not long though before he was all over me making sexual advances [00:09:50,650]: I told him no no no but he insisted and Then I said I’m on my period there is no way this is gonna happen [00:10:01,429]: Please stop He wouldn’t take he wouldn’t take no for an answer and backed me into a room which was not lit But looked like a kid’s bedroom with kids drawings on the wall He held me down on the bed [00:10:16,369]: I tried to get away Or check tried to get him off of me and kept asking him to stop but it was impossible He was extremely persistent and physically overpowering So You heard her here she said no no no he was overpowering This is how this happened to her [00:10:34,369]: And by the way Gloria all right [00:10:35,890]: I got it I got to give it to that woman [00:10:37,429]: She has really perfected the craft of ambulance chasing right [00:10:42,590]: Using press conferences to persuade the masses with a lot of sobbing rain It doesn’t really matter at that point whether or not what she says in the press conference is gonna be the same thing that she says in the courtroom because people are paying attention to the press conference and probably not going to follow this into the courtroom and I tell you that as detailed as that press conference seems Mimi does in fact leave out some important details and she also edits some details when she gets on the stand which we will get to but the Important thing to know is that Harvey was indicted by a grand jury in 2018 and Mimi Mimi’s testimony was therefore taken some time before then But by the time that she hit the stand she in 2020 had edited that testimony a little bit even from the grand jury indictment to the stand There were some things that had changed she had included some epithets Which we’ll get into So first we should just get into how she and Harvey met [00:11:43,570]: This is all according to Mimi [00:11:44,890]: This is her story She first met Harvey Weinstein back in 2004 and Then she approached him two years later in 2006 at the Cannes Film Festival because she was looking for work in the industry after her mentor When I’m quote mentor famed London producer Michael White had suffered a stroke and lost his business So that’s her and see her young young and beautiful And she there she is with Michael White’s a producer in London who she said became her mentor Now it’s worth mentioning that by mentor [00:12:21,270]: She means that after she met him once and they exchanged numbers She visited him and decided to stay with him during that visit in London and you can see she looks young [00:12:33,090]: He looks quite old [00:12:33,929]: Yeah she was in her 20s [00:12:35,530]: He was in her 60s She told this by the way to Vanity Fair that he then became a father figure to her and that they enjoyed a quote unquote Unconventional platonic relationship [00:12:46,130]: Okay that’s how she spent her 20s beside that guy Michael brushing shoulders because he was a big producer with Kate Moss the Rolling Stones Princess Diana at her Father figures house and then she went on to become his personal assistant Like I said he then had a stroke okay her father figure Boss man had a stroke [00:13:10,150]: And so with Michael White no longer able to provide that kind of support She decided to perhaps look for another father figure I’m not sure I can textualize that but she approached Harvey Weinstein at the Cannes Film Festival in 2006 now I want to be clear that in 2006 Mimi would have been just about to turn 30 years old Okay in other words she was not a Hollywood spring chicken [00:13:34,390]: I think that’s really important [00:13:35,809]: You’ve seen throughout this podcast I’ve always tried to stress what a woman’s age is because it’s important It’s important to differentiate between someone who’s you know 17 years old someone who’s 15 years old someone who is 30 years old a fully formed adult woman because it changes the context or it makes you I guess think about how helpless and unsure and uncertain they were and Yeah Mimi was about to turn 30 this is that’s where the story begins with Harvey Weinstein she was not in her early 20s anymore so her story goes that Harvey invited her after she approached him to meet him at his company’s hotel in Cannes the majestic hotel and Right away [00:14:18,929]: It was a horrible experience [00:14:20,349]: Okay she was humiliated because she got to his hotel room and They have a little bit of conversation and then he does this really crazy thing he asks her for a massage and she’s confused because she’s thinking she’s coming up here to talk about potentially getting a job talking about career aspects and she instead offers to call downstairs to get him a get him a massage and Then he turned it around and he says that he instead wants to give her a massage and she’s humiliated Like I said she testified that she was so humiliated that when she left that hotel room she broke down crying Yeah that’s not what she was expecting when she went into this guy’s hotel room Which is why what happens next gets interesting now her memory super fuzzy on how exactly it happened But she then gets a temporary job on project runway which was at that time being produced by the Weinstein company and To be clear they had already been filming this series they were deep into production and Reminding you again that she is not an American citizen [00:15:28,169]: So she he hooks her up with this job again Who knows she doesn’t know that I speak to his assistant [00:15:33,869]: I don’t know why I don’t remember any of this and She begins working for as a production assistant on the show for several weeks and she’s paid in cash Because her visa did not allow her to work in the United States Shooting then raps and By the way while she’s living in New York while she moved to New York for this opportunity She’s living with a friend of hers in the East Village and after shooting raps She reaches out to Harvey to thank him for the opportunity [00:16:01,429]: So despite this really uncomfortable humiliating experience in his hotel room She gets this job But then she just wants to thank him for the opportunity and he invites her for a drink at the Mercer hotel In New York City and she describes that experience as very pleasant she met him on June 26 2026 at the lobby in the lobby of the Mercer hotel and she testified that he was quote very respectful even charming He offered at that time to have her return to project runway The following season and the next day on the 27th She’s going to to his office to see somebody else and she then also stops by his office and he gives her a book that she should read and Then he offers to give her a ride home to her apartment after that meeting at his offices And he also says to her like you should come on my private jet [00:17:00,150]: We can go to Paris The next week we can attend this fashion show you can stay with me You can stay up the Ritz and she says that she declines that offer They get out of the car his assistant by the way male assistant is also in the car He’s like oh this is where you live [00:17:14,810]: This is the building that you live in these films She’s like yeah I guess Harvey was just paying attention to the layout or something at least That’s what you’re left when you get through the transcripts [00:17:24,030]: That’s kind of the impression that you get that Harvey was kind of Just monitoring and really wanted to know where this where this young woman lived She said that she didn’t want to go to Paris But she says that he didn’t take no for an answer and she testified that she had no intention of doing so But an effort to be polite [00:17:42,530]: She said to him that she would let him know maybe I will go to Paris and That Weinstein called her repeatedly and then later on he comes back He shows up at her apartment for the second time that day And now we’re gonna jump right into this court transcript I can make only a Matt this is a most powerful man in the world and he’s going to this East Village apartments So the question that she gets asked on the stand is did you act in any way romantically interested in Harvey Weinstein She says no [00:18:20,050]: Did you act in any way sexually interested in Harvey Weinstein [00:18:22,589]: No Did you hear from Harvey Weinstein once he left your apartment and you went inside [00:18:26,829]: Yes at that point Was your roommate Liz at home [00:18:30,530]: She was not was peanuts there peanut was Liz’s dog [00:18:34,609]: I believe so Describe the additional contact [00:18:38,630]: Well I heard from him and his assistant a few times that day Asking if I had decided whether or not I was going to go to Paris and I said thank you so much But no I am NOT going to come He said well just think about it again you know and he kept calling and I kept saying thank you so much but no and Question those initial communications that you were describing were those phone calls Answer I’m not I believe they were phone calls [00:19:05,229]: Yes Question and that was to that phone number that you had in your planner and that you were using at that time when you were In New York she answers [00:19:13,130]: I believe so [00:19:13,609]: I’m not a hundred percent sure That they were phone calls but I it’s more like they were phone calls than emails Question can you describe Harvey Weinstein’s tone during those conversations of those phone calls [00:19:27,869]: She answers [00:19:28,510]: Well he was persistent and persistent and what if anything happened sort of following those repeated phone calls [00:19:34,890]: Well and later he showed up unannounced at the apartment building And I am not sure if he rang the intercom or whether he called me on the phone and said he was outside But he had shown up there unexpectedly Question did you try to get him to leave via phone initially [00:19:50,989]: I did I He wanted to come inside and I said it wasn’t a good time And so he said you know just talk to me like five minutes [00:19:59,650]: I want to see you for five minutes or something like that Question and so after you had said that it wasn’t a good time Did he remain outside of your building [00:20:09,109]: Yes he wouldn’t leave and can you describe his tone at that point [00:20:13,109]: It was just very persistent and insistent and what did you do [00:20:19,390]: Well I didn’t want him to come into the apartment [00:20:21,189]: So I thought I will go out and see him outside Just like outside by the door So I left the doors open to go outside to open the front door And as soon as I opened it He just pulled it apart like that and barged past me and walked down the hallway and said where is it [00:20:37,650]: Where is it [00:20:38,130]: And he was pointing and he saw obviously The door was open and he just walked into the apartment Let me just come out of this transcript for a second [00:20:47,969]: So Harvey Weinstein reappeared at her apartment and She doesn’t kind of maybe sort of remember the phone call ish the phone call details are always a bit hazy when you go through this transcript but She knows that he she only went outside because she didn’t want him to come inside But Harvey’s she’s given a narrative [00:21:08,209]: He’s crazy [00:21:08,670]: He’s like ah where is it [00:21:10,369]: Where is it [00:21:10,869]: I want to see your East Village apartment and just burst past her and barges in and somehow Finds exactly which apartment it was because the door was open and he just took a guess That is power my friends Anyway jumping back into this the lawyer asks and what did you do [00:21:32,969]: I [00:21:33,530]: Didn’t I didn’t know what to do [00:21:34,910]: So I just like oh god [00:21:36,089]: Oh no [00:21:37,189]: Why is he walking into the apartment [00:21:40,050]: Describe what happened [00:21:40,989]: Did you go into the apartment [00:21:42,229]: Did you follow him into the apartment [00:21:45,130]: yes and Describe what happened once you were inside of the apartment [00:21:48,609]: Well once we were inside of the apartment we were just standing there and he was basically standing there He asked a few things about the apartment and who I was living with and then he was persisting With trying to convince me to go with him on this trip to Paris I mean he must have really want her to go on the trip to Paris question Do you remember anything about the details of what he was saying at that point answer [00:22:12,390]: Well at one point he said okay Well why don’t you just take your roommate if that will make you come she can come to she can be your chaperone or whatever What was your responses to his request [00:22:22,189]: Well I was still trying I felt I was just saying thank you so much But no thank you [00:22:27,290]: Basically [00:22:27,290]: I’m not going to come Can you describe his demeanor in the apartment as he is making these repeated requests [00:22:32,750]: He was just very overwhelming and he wasn’t he was just very very persistent and he was still friendly But it was almost beggy and he was kind of very insistent [00:22:44,030]: It would not just take just accept the no Dude did you continue to hold your ground and say that you were not going to go with him [00:22:51,369]: Yes Was he listening and then there’s an objection here from Harvey’s attorney [00:22:56,969]: So he rephrases the question Was he continuing to ask you to go yes that’s at some point did he stop asking you to go [00:23:05,609]: Yes can you describe that [00:23:07,469]: Well at one point I had because I just didn’t know how to shut it down So to speak I just said something that I have you know I was trying to say things and I said you know you have a terrible reputation with women I have heard and it was more like half a joke or something I was trying to be friendly still but he got offended by that and he stepped back and he said what do you mean [00:23:25,430]: What have you heard that sort of thing [00:23:27,790]: And I said no I’m just saying like no just in general like whatever But that’s when he backed off At that point [00:23:35,430]: Do you leave your apartment [00:23:36,589]: Yes and I’m going to show you that I have marked as People’s Exhibit 65 through 69 Do you recognize the People’s Exhibit 65 through 69 [00:23:44,410]: I do What do you recognize those to be though [00:23:47,469]: So this is the front door of the apartment building where I lived during that time So I wanted to just describe to you that incident because it’s important to understand so she starts with this hotel incidents and Then and can and now we’ve moved and she’s you know gets a ride And I guess he’s just decided to memorize her little East Village apartment And he’s barged in luckily found the apartment because he could tell from this door That that must be hers and he walked in there and she follows and then despite this beast and monster chasing her She’s able to get him to back off with just this one sentence [00:24:23,650]: Oh you have a bad reputation with women Her memory thing gets a little bit fuzzy [00:24:28,390]: I gotta tell you she doesn’t remember again exactly how they communicated But she acknowledges that she accepts an invitation for Weinstein to fly her out to California Los Angeles for the premiere of clerks to a movie in July of 2006 She frames that as like you know I felt bad and go to Paris But she’s gonna go to LA Because also the timing works out for her because her friend just had a baby But then something happens okay Before Mimi flies out to LA on July 10th 2006 Harvey invites her to his Soho apartment and that’s what you heard her crying about He forcibly performs a sexual act on her Now even if you knew nothing about this case Just this sentence alone that I’m about to show you from 2020 when the trial was going on a B news article that was covering the trial would probably make you go huh [00:25:30,310]: It reads quote One of the two women that Harvey Weinstein is on trial for sexually assaulting took the witness stand on Monday Describe how the Hollywood producer violently and sexually assaulted her and To explain why she returned to him within a month and endured a second unwanted sexual encounter Wait okay [00:25:54,170]: So she’s taking the stand to explain why after a violent sexual forcible Assault she then went back to him within a month to endure a second assault That doesn’t sound right But yeah Mimi’s allegations were that on July 10th 2006 Harvey Weinstein forcibly performed a sex act on her then she went to LA on his dime by the way and When she returned on July 26th 2006 so we’re talking two weeks it happened again Mimi alleges that when she returned from LA to New York City about two weeks later Harvey invited her to the Tribeca Grand Hotel for a drink and she agreed [00:26:36,989]: She said quote He was very persistent and insistent She explained Her going back by saying quote I was still trying to make sense of what had happened why had happened and I felt very trapped in Not being able to do anything about it She said she felt like she was trying to regain some sort of power Until she walked in to meet him on July 26th 2006 wearing a battered pair of vintage shoes with little money and no family in the u s [00:27:10,709]: By the way So she testified quote [00:27:13,410]: I just felt like some sort of hobo just like a girl who’s just down on her luck You know what [00:27:18,930]: I mean [00:27:19,530]: Yeah park aside the fact that you’re talking about a grown adult woman She was down on her luck and she really was just kind of going there to regain power But she testified that when she arrived at the Tribeca Grand Hotel she was directed to Weinstein’s room where I mean call me crazy I maybe wouldn’t have gone to his hotel room again but like this is a different it’s different [00:27:42,032]: She’s going again to regain power [00:27:44,892]: And this is where she claims that he took her hand and he pulled her toward a bed and she says at that moment quote I just went numb [00:27:54,252]: Because she realized right then that Weinstein had trapped her again [00:28:00,992]: She testified quote I just felt like an idiot [00:28:06,292]: In the courtroom this is the moment where she trembles and she weeps and she puts her hands in her head [00:28:13,272]: Because if you don’t if you’re thinking about asking questions about that or wondering if there’s an aspect of common sense here maybe don’t go back to a hotel room don’t let them into your apartment anything like that the point is is now she’s crying on the stand [00:28:26,372]: And crying counts for a lot on the stand [00:28:27,952]: You’re going to learn that a lot throughout this case [00:28:31,232]: Now I want to take you through when Harvey’s lawyer is able to question her because it gets quite interesting [00:28:39,432]: And if you go back to that original encounter at the Cannes Film Festival he asks her and this is the top of 1638 Skyler he asks her remember this is when he’s supposed to be the massage incident at an initial one he’s realizing I have some questions even though she’s crying [00:29:00,092]: And he Damon Chernis is his name is the lawyer and he says that assistant brings you up to the room [00:29:05,392]: And she says correct [00:29:06,452]: And then he says do you remember what you did earlier that day on the 24th at the Cannes Film Festival [00:29:11,832]: Do you remember where you went [00:29:14,032]: I don’t [00:29:15,552]: When you get to the Hotel Majestic you get brought to Mr Weinstein’s room right [00:29:19,712]: Yes [00:29:20,412]: The two of you according to your testimony have a brief conversation about whatever [00:29:24,552]: Yes [00:29:25,472]: At some point you say Mr Weinstein asks you about massages [00:29:29,432]: Yes [00:29:30,392]: He asked if you’ll give him a massage or at some point if he can give you a massage right [00:29:34,532]: Correct [00:29:35,872]: At this point you told the members of the jury that you were very upset to say the least right [00:29:41,832]: I was offended [00:29:43,212]: Yes [00:29:43,652]: You were offended because this was a business meeting that you thought you were going to potentially talk about Project Runway [00:29:49,992]: No not Project Runway at this point [00:29:52,932]: Something else [00:29:54,372]: I allegedly I went there to meet him to ask if he had anything any production work that I could help on [00:30:00,472]: Yes [00:30:00,972]: During the course of that meeting is it your testimony Mr Weinstein propositioned you with a massage right [00:30:08,372]: Repeat [00:30:10,432]: Propositioned you with a massage [00:30:12,412]: He did [00:30:13,072]: Yes [00:30:14,152]: And you were humiliated is the word you used [00:30:17,172]: I was [00:30:18,452]: You left and you left the room [00:30:20,752]: You testified [00:30:22,052]: You started crying [00:30:23,432]: Once I left the hotel [00:30:25,652]: And when did Mr Weinstein give you his phone number during the course of that [00:30:30,032]: I don’t recall when he actually gave it to me [00:30:33,392]: Somebody’s phone number is usually the last thing that you get right [00:30:37,252]: Objection says her lawyer [00:30:39,352]: Probably she says [00:30:40,372]: The court says overruled [00:30:42,472]: Was it after Mr Weinstein had made these propositions and you were walking out the door that he gave you his phone number [00:30:50,372]: Objection Mr Haas said [00:30:51,612]: Mr Haas says the court overrules that objection [00:30:55,652]: She answers possibly probably [00:30:59,692]: Then you said at some point later you received a call from Mr Weinstein but you don’t really remember it [00:31:05,772]: I don’t really remember if it was from Mr Weinstein himself or an assistant but somebody came through to arrange for me to go help out on Project Runway [00:31:15,352]: Mr Weinstein gave you his number [00:31:17,292]: Yes [00:31:17,872]: I may have followed up with his office [00:31:19,752]: So we are clear [00:31:21,872]: You called Mr Weinstein’s office after this massage request [00:31:25,832]: Yes [00:31:26,772]: And when you called Mr Weinstein’s office who did you talk to [00:31:30,612]: Actually I’m not sure but yes yes [00:31:33,692]: Were you thinking in your head at this time this massage incident occurred [00:31:37,092]: Why am I going to call this guy for a job [00:31:40,592]: No I needed a job [00:31:43,052]: And isn’t it true that Project Runway was already in production at that point [00:31:47,192]: Correct [00:31:47,692]: And being in the production industry you are aware it was probably fully staffed by the time that you would have gotten involved correct [00:31:54,732]: And she answers yes [00:31:56,792]: Well it’s an interesting testimony there yeah [00:31:58,532]: She needed a job and kind of has to admit like yeah maybe she got his number on the way out of that horrible massage incident in which she cried and then maybe she reached out to his office about that position which wasn’t really an open position but required someone with power to kind of make the position for a person who isn’t supposed to be working in the U S just kind of happen [00:32:24,632]: I don’t know [00:32:25,172]: I don’t know [00:32:25,492]: I’m not I’m not alleging anything [00:32:26,872]: Okay [00:32:27,092]: But the point is I’m just reading you the testimonies that are going on [00:32:30,932]: And then Damis Csernas is able to question her again [00:32:34,552]: Of course he questions her throughout this entire thing but about that incident on July 26th when she just can’t explain how she got trapped again by him at another hotel [00:32:50,432]: And here’s here is from that transcript Csernas asks her on the 26th of July you had sex with Harvey Weinstein correct [00:32:59,952]: There was sex with Harvey Weinstein [00:33:02,612]: Yes [00:33:02,952]: She replied [00:33:04,152]: Shortly after Csernas asked her he didn’t force you to have sex did he [00:33:08,392]: I didn’t physically resist she replied [00:33:14,552]: Do you remember testifying before the grand jury that the sex was not forced [00:33:21,392]: Correct because I didn’t resist he said [00:33:25,532]: He also then challenges her according to this article her recollection on the stand where she now says that he called her a B I T C H and that he called her a whore [00:33:36,272]: And that was something that she had not recounted in her initial interviews with prosecutors [00:33:42,312]: She found that to be very strange [00:33:43,372]: Like when you’re in front of that grand jury in early 2018 you never said any of this stuff [00:33:48,552]: And here’s how she replied [00:33:50,132]: She said quote I think that is something that I remembered later she said [00:33:55,572]: Okay [00:33:56,432]: Okay [00:33:56,872]: Let’s just take her at her face value here [00:33:58,692]: Listen I’m not here to not believe women [00:34:01,532]: Um let’s take everything she said into account because again Harvey gets 20 years okay [00:34:09,412]: And if and I I hate being a person with common sense so I I’m happy for you guys to comment [00:34:14,832]: Let me know what you think I would expect that after having survived two sexual assaults after having survived with one powerful sentence you have a bad reputation with women having survived him having barged into her apartment plus the weird massage incident in the room that began it all [00:34:35,952]: I would surmise that Mimi Halehi now done with that in the past project runway situation over that she would have maybe just stayed away from Harvey Weinstein altogether [00:34:46,632]: Is that fair [00:34:47,732]: I’ll look in the chat [00:34:48,752]: Is that fair [00:34:49,232]: Is it fair to go [00:34:50,132]: Okay [00:34:51,512]: Maybe just stay away from this guy [00:34:52,892]: He’s bad news bears [00:34:53,892]: Like if you’re not going to go to the cops you’re too scared [00:34:56,612]: Fine but just stay away from him [00:34:59,432]: And if you think that is fair or if you think it’s not fair I would I invite you to tell me why it isn’t [00:35:05,772]: I can tell you the answer [00:35:07,232]: She didn’t stay away from him [00:35:08,752]: She didn’t stay away from him after her sexual various sexual assaults in 2006 you’re going to be rather surprised to learn that she instead would send a Harvey Weinstein emails [00:35:19,332]: He conducts his emails always through his assistants and she sent Harvey Weinstein this email two years after her double assaults [00:35:28,792]: This email went out on Friday June 27th 2008 [00:35:35,612]: He writes she wrote hi Harvey [00:35:38,752]: How are you [00:35:40,212]: It’s great to see you in can [00:35:42,552]: I noticed an article in today’s New York post about the Adams family being turned into a Broadway musical [00:35:49,212]: Just to remind you what a genius I am [00:35:52,032]: Didn’t I tell you that was a great idea like three years ago at the Mercer bar [00:35:56,172]: Hmm [00:35:57,312]: Lots of love Miriam [00:35:59,692]: Oh lots of love [00:36:04,112]: I was not expecting to read lots of love [00:36:08,412]: Now I want to be honest I’ve never been raped [00:36:12,192]: I’ve never been sexually assaulted [00:36:14,172]: But I would imagine in a world where that happened to me I probably wouldn’t send an email and say lots of love to the person that had conducted those sexual assaults [00:36:24,832]: That’s just me [00:36:25,712]: Again I could be in a totally crazy space [00:36:27,592]: Happy to hear you guys come you know explain to me why that sometimes happens and and so specific [00:36:33,112]: And she’s kind of going back to the at the Mercer bar and she says that they had that great time together [00:36:37,712]: That was just right before he scoped out her apartment barged in and she doesn’t seem to be concerned about that [00:36:44,632]: And to be clear Harvey replied to her three days later sounds like a busy guy [00:36:48,272]: Maybe he wasn’t giving her the attention that she needed or wanted [00:36:51,832]: And he replied on the 30th and he said this to her Miriam you are a genius [00:36:56,172]: It’s good to hear from you [00:36:57,212]: All my best Harvey [00:36:58,312]: Oh just one sentence back which he just must’ve been so pompous and so arrogant that he didn’t even allocate the proper amount of time to wanting to have this relationship or wanting her to like him [00:37:09,732]: Because if he had committed these insane assaults you know I don’t know I just I would imagine that he would want to you know make sure that she was happy but that’s a pretty short response [00:37:21,312]: Anyways she then writes him again [00:37:24,092]: Yeah [00:37:25,072]: A year after that she writes him on February 25th of 2009 [00:37:30,272]: This time she’s a bit more explicit in what she’s what she’s looking for [00:37:33,632]: She writes dear Harvey I haven’t seen you in so long [00:37:38,652]: How are you [00:37:39,892]: Listen I’m saving up to become a Kundalini yoga teacher [00:37:42,552]: And I just wanted to announce myself available for work [00:37:45,812]: If you happen to by any chance have anything shooting in London I’ll be a runner whatever [00:37:52,192]: I’d really appreciate any leads [00:37:55,512]: A cat needs feeding [00:37:57,402]: Either way [00:37:58,032]: I hope you are super well [00:38:00,652]: Peace and love Miriam [00:38:04,392]: Okay [00:38:04,712]: So I don’t know if I’m just not aware of what can happen or why you might email a person who has multiple times assaulted you [00:38:14,612]: And again try to put yourself into a circumstance where you are working for him [00:38:19,712]: But that is what Miriam did [00:38:21,732]: And now we are talking she’s three years older so she’s about 32 33 years old [00:38:26,992]: And I would say obviously probably had every opportunity at that moment to go to the police and to report what had happened to her [00:38:35,292]: But she doesn’t do that [00:38:36,472]: She doesn’t do that at all [00:38:37,092]: She waits another so this is 2009 she comes out with her allegations in 2017 [00:38:41,532]: She waits another eight years when she’s next to Gloria Allred and Harvey Weinstein is going down and she decides to present this story as her having been sexually assaulted [00:38:53,652]: And she was successful [00:38:54,372]: Like I said she broke down crying on the stand and that was enough in New York to give him 20 years [00:39:04,472]: Now when we take a look at the transcript and we start hearing and looking at more information about that time that he barged into her apartment you know when Damon Chernis is able to put her on the stand and ask her questions about that setup of the apartment [00:39:21,752]: And you learn that there was not just one door in which she had to buzz him into and he burst into it you know burst through it [00:39:29,752]: There was also a second security door that you would have to be buzzed into [00:39:34,692]: And she is not really sure how he goes doesn’t really remember the details of how he got past that one [00:39:40,132]: But he did [00:39:41,492]: And then we learned that the layout of that apartment actually required him to go right and then left in order to get to her open door [00:39:53,612]: And I am telling you when I’m reading this transcript I’m thinking if a girl did not want you to come to her apartment to be inside of her apartment you’ve got two security doors [00:40:03,832]: You’ve got to call to get it [00:40:04,812]: I mean I just maybe would have let it the call go to go unanswered maybe not opened the second door not showed him [00:40:14,512]: I’m not implying she did [00:40:15,432]: Obviously her testimony is he just said where is it [00:40:17,672]: Where is it [00:40:18,352]: And then you know found it just was able to find it [00:40:22,212]: She’s like had a scent about where her apartment might be [00:40:24,492]: But I felt like there were maybe some opportunities for her to get out of that situation when I was reading through the transcript and then I found it to be very weird [00:40:31,092]: And again this is another one of her memory lapses [00:40:34,392]: When Damon Chernus the lawyer starts asking her about this trip to L A that she says she got invited to because of a movie premiere [00:40:41,632]: Then we learned that she was in L A for two weeks and that Harvey paid for that trip [00:40:44,832]: And then Damon kind of says hey how long do movie premieres usually last [00:40:49,272]: She says you know I’m paraphrasing here one night [00:40:53,012]: And so you were there for two weeks and Harvey paid for this trip [00:40:56,232]: Yeah [00:40:56,752]: She doesn’t remember how that happened after he barged into her apartment but recalls maybe that she and then Damon shows her an email another email that she sent to the Weinstein company where she says hey yeah Harvey said that he would help me get to Los Angeles [00:41:16,212]: And then Damon Chernus Harvey’s lawyer is able to show in her calendar entry that on June 26th actually she had gone out to buy her friend who had a baby in L A a gift [00:41:33,372]: So before Harvey before this movie premiere offer which she alleges was the reason for her going to L A she had plans to go to L A [00:41:43,372]: So that I guess was serendipitous serendipitous [00:41:47,032]: Or as Damon kind of presents he was just paying for her to go to L A and this wasn’t really about a movie premiere [00:41:56,612]: This was about Harvey Weinstein [00:41:58,892]: Again this is reading the transcripts [00:42:00,492]: My takeaway is that they kind of maybe had just offered to pay for her to go to L A [00:42:05,892]: on a trip [00:42:07,592]: And he didn’t really need her at the movie premiere at all [00:42:12,272]: But what do I know [00:42:13,652]: Again I don’t want to make any implications here because he was found guilty guys [00:42:18,752]: And there’s so much more that I’m going to tell you about Mimi this woman who kind of enjoyed these father like relationships these mentor like relationships [00:42:28,592]: And truly guys she just felt like a hobo [00:42:30,692]: And it’s really sad that this 30 year old woman just couldn’t I guess didn’t have enough life experience to know about these pitfalls of men in their hotel rooms and robes [00:42:43,172]: And even when the signs were there and he asked for a massage and you know those parts get really hazy [00:42:49,812]: And so the New York courts said that she was a victim [00:42:54,032]: And what’s really compelling by the way is to when you hear all these people pretending to be outraged that the appellate court said what happened here [00:43:05,952]: And one of the things that one of the judges says and we’ll get to that transcript tomorrow or in our next installment of this when they’re reviewing this case is they go why were certain people even allowed to testify [00:43:17,672]: Because it almost looks to this judge this appellate judge that they didn’t have the evidence really to convict Harvey [00:43:24,372]: So they just kind of allowed this sort of banana court thing to happen where they let people testify about all sorts of things like Bob Weinstein his brother Harvey once got into a fight with his brother [00:43:35,632]: Okay [00:43:36,132]: Why is this being allowed in this courtroom [00:43:38,252]: What does that have to do with anything [00:43:39,292]: What does that have to do with anything happening [00:43:42,532]: So if you if you get into a fistfight with your brother or you punch your brother it means that you’re a rapist [00:43:47,592]: What is it was all about just like character assassination you know all Harvey one time you know didn’t pay me or something [00:43:56,352]: I just like assassinating his character [00:43:57,992]: It seems like a show trial [00:43:59,612]: Like I said I’ll show you what the appellate judge said about this and why they are sending this back down [00:44:04,732]: But I want you to imagine this [00:44:05,752]: I want you to imagine you or someone you love maybe it’s your woman watching your husband your brother your son gets 20 years in prison 20 years in prison for this relationship [00:44:24,652]: Um that of Mimi uh also 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[00:46:42,092]: code Candace [00:46:43,292]: I can’t wait to see what you guys are thinking about [00:46:46,132]: Just what I presented you so far [00:46:47,372]: Tip of the iceberg guys [00:46:48,992]: Tip of the iceberg [00:46:50,692]: Okay [00:46:51,072]: We’re just getting started here so don’t even don’t even get crazy [00:46:55,892]: It’s just and it’s amazing to think by the way I know we had showed you before when we cut a trailer for this but all of these celebrities he’s God he’s God he’s God [00:47:05,072]: And then instantly right instantly and this is a matter of self preservation those very same people like Jennifer Lawrence who said he was a God and thank you I owe you so much turned on him and were a part of the dog pile [00:47:21,652]: Take a listen [00:47:23,592]: He is just that horrible ass boil that does not go away [00:47:30,912]: Harvey Weinstein isn’t here tonight but don’t worry he’ll be back in 20 years when he becomes the first person ever booed during the in memoriam [00:47:37,772]: And the Academy as you’re no doubt aware took action last year to expel Harvey Weinstein from their ranks [00:47:44,992]: There were a lot of great nominees but Harvey deserved it the most [00:47:50,172]: Incredible [00:47:51,232]: With friends like these who all took took took who need enemies right [00:47:54,592]: And that’s kind of the thing about the Me Too movement is how it moves [00:47:58,242]: When people are certain that people are going down they are willing to say so much [00:48:04,352]: And then when someone starts going back and through the facts I think people get a little bit nervous [00:48:08,812]: I think there’s going to be a lot of celebs that are nervous [00:48:10,972]: They know I’m talking to Harvey [00:48:12,132]: They know I know stuff [00:48:13,232]: They know I’m getting close freaking out [00:48:16,252]: What do I know about these people [00:48:18,392]: Okay [00:48:18,992]: And similarly we saw this by the way to go into a current event with the Blake Lively thing [00:48:22,932]: Oh it was so easy for the cast members to throw oh my God just throw Justin Baldoni under the bus [00:48:29,252]: And I don’t mean to correlate Justin to Harvey but it was amazing because it’s Justin was just so kind and did nothing wrong [00:48:36,532]: And they all were like self preservation la la la Brandon Sklenar read it read the complaint [00:48:43,232]: Well guess what [00:48:43,612]: I just wanted to very quickly let you guys know Brandon Sklenar has had a change of heart because he is avoiding saying that he’s team Blake like the absolute plague now [00:48:52,912]: And so last night there were there were the Oscars last night [00:48:56,192]: I didn’t watch them [00:48:57,012]: But I did catch that at the red carpet of the Vanity Fair Oscars party someone came up to him and just flat out asked him if he was team Blake you know and here’s what he had to say [00:49:07,332]: Take a listen [00:49:08,452]: And finally I know you’re very supportive over your female co stars as well [00:49:12,072]: Blake Lively how are you hoping to support her during this time [00:49:14,992]: I mean I I just I just it’s it’s a tough situation and I I just hope everyone remembers what the movie is about and why we made it in the first place and and um it’s it’s about love and it’s about supporting women in general and and helping people through tough times [00:49:34,952]: And that movie has helped so many people and I just want people to remember like what it’s about and why we made it and and to kind of keep it on that that that kind of like core ethos [00:49:43,912]: You know what I mean [00:49:45,832]: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah [00:49:47,732]: Say a bunch of words and also say absolutely nothing [00:49:50,532]: I get it [00:49:51,152]: It’s so much easier [00:49:52,212]: Just say sorry [00:49:53,152]: So much easier [00:49:54,732]: But you will know by the way that was the Hollywood reporter [00:49:57,472]: Okay [00:49:57,832]: The Hollywood reporter is the one that is like unbelievably team Blake and team Ryan Ari Emmanuel’s got power at the Hollywood reporters [00:50:04,072]: So they set him up for that trying to get him to say something great about Blake Lively and that failed and he just kind of backed out and just mumble jumbo jumbo mumble his way out of that one [00:50:15,312]: That’s kind of amazing [00:50:16,592]: Also a quick update [00:50:17,732]: There is a legal filing today in the Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively Me Too case [00:50:22,952]: The first ever to be a Me Too case that I would say was orchestrated by a man Ryan Reynolds [00:50:27,952]: That is my take on that situation [00:50:29,612]: But the court is going to post an audio only access for the press and the public to have access to an upcoming hearing regarding their protective order [00:50:40,872]: I am so there [00:50:42,032]: I will be covering it [00:50:43,352]: Do not worry about it [00:50:44,352]: I will be there 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[00:52:13,332]: Oh shocking [00:52:14,112]: Do you think that’s what happened with Mimi [00:52:16,412]: No [00:52:16,692]: What [00:52:17,452]: Maybe you need to go back and watch her cry some more [00:52:20,972]: Mia writes love everything you expose [00:52:22,552]: Kamal is not black but she is a man [00:52:24,472]: Blake and Ryan are fake and everything is gay [00:52:26,852]: Thank you [00:52:27,552]: Alice writes Candace is fab [00:52:29,952]: Zadeh writes congrats on 4 million subs [00:52:32,112]: Candace well deserves [00:52:33,252]: God bless you and always keep your faith [00:52:35,872]: This person anonymously writes as a woman who has been abducted and raped you would never and I mean never reach out to that person let alone reach out like this year after year time and time again [00:52:46,992]: You know what [00:52:47,492]: I’m so happy you said that because I didn’t want to then end up with a bunch of rape victims being like no that’s just like that’s protocol [00:52:52,512]: That’s what you do [00:52:53,072]: You send emails [00:52:53,752]: You try to see them [00:52:54,212]: You try to be alone with them again in hotel rooms [00:52:57,652]: I’m just from a school of hard knocks [00:52:59,332]: I use a little bit of common sense but I had that instinct that maybe people who have lived through rape which is by the way a huge reason that I do this series and what I hate about the Me Too movement is it completely cheapens the word rape [00:53:12,672]: So people that survive an abduction and a real rape um and real sexual assaults have to contend with a movement of women who perhaps are engaging in something consciously [00:53:25,492]: Perhaps I’m not here to paint a picture about Mimi [00:53:28,272]: She won [00:53:28,772]: Don’t want to get in trouble but I’m just reading you the facts of his case and it’s going to get even crazier [00:53:34,152]: You guys by the way before we jump off I wanted to let you know that we released an episode of shot in the dark for free because right now uh there’s all of this talk about measles measles measles and I was getting flooded with emails from parents saying Candace where is this episode [00:53:48,072]: Because they’re basically using another fear mongering campaign to force parents into agreeing acquiescing to their children getting a common combination shot you know measles mumps and rubella [00:53:57,632]: And so we thought it was too important to keep it behind the paywall [00:54:00,372]: We released episode 14 of a shot in the dark early and for free available at candaceowens com [00:54:05,992]: So if you’re a parent and you’re listening to all of this measles rhetoric that will help you get a base understanding of even the history of measles and mumps and rubella in this country [00:54:15,032]: And hopefully it will cause you to not be as concerned about this rhetoric which will keep happening as more people wake up to what big pharma is [00:54:24,092]: And while you’re there obviously sign up for the book club [00:54:26,352]: You can buy our book make him a sandwich which is available for presale support us in our independent journalism journalistic endeavor and in any way that you can [00:54:35,452]: We deeply appreciate it so that we can keep doing what we love to do [00:54:38,112]: And we’ll see you tomorrowTranscribe your media with TRNSCRB.
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